A judge has ruled that the company Sticker Mule can keep its giant “Vote for Trump” sign, which it recently unveiled in Amsterdam, New York. But why did it put the sign up in the first place? Sticker Mule CEO Anthony Constantino joins Glenn to explain the decision, and much of it revolves around free speech. Constantino, who’s still technically a registered Democrat, argues that the modern Democratic Party’s attacks on free speech have gone far enough and Americans are waking up. “Really the best thing for the Democratic party is a massive loss,” he argues. Plus, he reveals who he believes the “biggest villain” in the tech world is, and it’s probably not who you think …
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GLENN: I want to tell you a story about a guy up in New York.
He runs a company, called sticker mule.
He's the CEO.
And after a sniper almost took out Donald Trump, he wrote a message to say, I support Donald Trump.
And he called for an end to political hate.
He said, a lot of people support Trump, that I work with. Many support Biden.
And that's -- that's normal.
But we have to stop this hatred.
Well, he started getting death threats, people telling him to kill himself.
Or threatening to kill him. And it got ugly.
It got ugly. He decided to put a sign up. Vote for Trump, on the top of his building.
Now, the city said, it was going to cause problems with people. You know, on the how, because they were going to look. And I guess freak out.
I don't know what the problem was. But he built this sign.
But then kept it covered. Because the city said, he can't have a sign there.
Well, a judge yesterday, said no. He can have a sign there.
He unveiled it last night. In front of a big rally. Just took him a couple of hours, to gather a bunch of people. He turned the sign on. And he have been is upset about it, apparently.
He is with us, now.
Anthony Constantino. Anthony. How are you?
ANTHONY: Hey, wonderful to be here.
GLENN: Yeah. Thank you.
ANTHONY: Actually, I want to say to be honest, I think everyone in love with Biden, two or three people that are upset about it in my hometown. Someone told me the other day, I was talking to a local journalist, and he said, I got to be honest with you. I never saw you unite people, like this. I never seen anyone unite everyone like you did. He said, everybody is on your side. Democrat, Republican.
GLENN: Because.
ANTHONY: The local committee, they all want the sign, because they all know, look, I'm sticking up for free speech and free expression. And I'm trying to end this epidemic that's been bad, really, for both sides.
People have to be comfortable, to say they like President Trump, who did tremendous things for the country. Tremendous things really, for the world.
In his first term. And that's all I'm doing with this sign. People in the local community get it.
Except for two or three people. Mainly. Unfortunately, mainly Democrats who are sadly, you know -- I actually -- I guess -- somebody told me today.
I'm still a registered Democrat. So --
GLENN: Wow.
ANTHONY: Look badly to Democrats. In the direction of being very opposed to free speech.
And I don't follow this closely.
But I'm seeing very horrible things, lately about free speech. Hillary Clinton saying horrible things about not wanting free speech anymore.
Tim Walz saying horrible things about it, as well.
And we all saw what Jack Dorsey did with Twitter. What Mark Zuckerburg did with Facebook during the pandemic. You know, this, I think people don't like this.
And so people in the local community. You know, I haven't seen -- people in the local community are -- I think 99.9 percent of people like it. And, you know, maybe three people, three people --
GLENN: Right. So wait. You were a Democrat.
Have you ever voted for Trump?
ANTHONY: You know, yeah, Trump. I believe was the first Republican I voted for.
GLENN: Really?
And why -- why did you switch? I mean, you still call yourself a Democrat, right?
LARA: Yeah. I'm registered that way. I don't really affiliate. You know, I don't really affiliate with anything, in particular.
You know, I don't like dishonest people. And a friend of mine said, he's not a April had person either.
Really, a very big, strong guys. And this is a battle. Real versus fake.
And he said, Donald Trump is a real authentic person. And these other people are fake.
And, you know, from what I see, there's a lot of dishonesty in politics. I'm not too involved in it.
I'm involved a little bit recently. There's a lot of dishonesty. But Donald Trump is a real, authentic person. He sacrificed. He can do what's right for the country. And, you know, right now, I can see what it's like, myself.
Because the upside down for me, in this whole thing, has been -- very little, other than I made myself very interesting, I guess.
But I've had to deal with a lot. In the situation.
And Donald Trump is doing a lot more than me. Well, I like people that try to make the world a better place. I like people who are honest and authentic.
And I think people don't understand. You have an existing organization, called the US government, and no organization likes when somebody new enters the organization.
GLENN: I know.
ANTHONY: So there was a rebellion.
Your listeners probably understand it. Unfortunately, a lot of people who hate Trump.
Don't understand what was happening. And it was really a rebellion from the people inside the existing organization. Which is called the US government.
Nobody likes that.
You see it every time there's a turnaround situation in business.
You see the same thing. You see the rebellion against Elon Musk, when he bought Twitter was insane.
GLENN: Right.
ANTHONY: Because people don't want new leaders coming in and fixing corrupt systems.
But similar to the US government. Twitter was very corrupt.
They were doing horrible things, for the world.
And they were behaving in a very unethical manner. And Elon came in, and he had 80 or 90 percent of the people, and they were all members.
I remember listening -- there's a news article about Elon Musk is going to destroy it.
And all of his -- that Joel, whatever his name was, there are all these guys, ranting and raving to their buddies in the news medias. Saying all these horrible things about Elon Musk.
And now, some months later, X has only become better and stronger. And really, less permissive because it's a much more friendly -- bringing back free speech. Roger Stone is back on the platform.
That was tragic. I said, one of the first things that really turned me against Twitter and the Democrats in the poll. Anti-free speech movement. Was when they banned Roger Stone from Twitter.
And I said, whether you like Roger Stone or not, he's a personal adviser to Trump. A friend to Trump as far as I can understand. In my opinion, a historically relevant person.
And why would we want to ban historically important individuals, from doing -- an opportunity to speak?
GLENN: Quite honestly.
Anyone. People say, well, it's gotten worse on Twitter.
And I've seen stuff on Twitter.
But I dismiss it, when I see, you know, see people saying crazy things.
I just block them, or just say, all right. Dismiss that.
Move on with your life. When no one is filtering, you have to expect, the crazy people will say things too.
We've all lived in neighborhoods, where there's a crazy guy that lives somewhere on the street.
You know who he is. You avoid him. This is just the cyber neighborhood now. And we've got crazy people living on our street. That's okay.
Ignore them.
ANTHONY: I've been involved for 14 years now. I've been involved in Twitter and all these things.
You know, anecdotally, I can tell you, to me, it feels like it's gotten tremendously better. The algorithm has changed.
And it's favoring intellectual conversation. If you go on there. You look at textbooks. Articles that trend now. Or posts that trend.
They're more interesting. Intellectual and informative in nature.
There are posters. There are people that post interesting stuff, before it was structured.
So if you said horrible things, you know, that was what was favored. And so Twitter was making people become nasty little by little, by saying, look, if you write something really mean, we're going to make you popular. That was the way Jack Dorsey had his structure.
And I think he was a disgusting human to the world, and owed an even bigger apology than Mark Zuckerburg. Because I took major issue -- he had misinformation.
When he had -- he was blocking people left and right for -- for saying things that he didn't like them saying.
GLENN: Right.
ANTHONY: But then I went on there, one day. And then there were things trending, and he can control a trending topic. And it says, I like to punch Nazis. And he had the whole universe of Twitter, saying, I like punching Nazis. I like punching Nazis.
And, of course, Nazi meant Trump supporters.
So Jack Dorsey was inciting violence against all Trump supporters.
I felt that was disgusting. I think it was disgusting. He owes the world a big apology. Mark apologized in a small way. Mark started to say nice things about Trump now.
But Jack really is the biggest villain in the whole tech world.
And now he's hiding. He doesn't even use Twitter anymore.
He's hiding on the Internet. Strange beard. Hiding on an island.
Similar to other people going on, to islands.
GLENN: The -- the idea that they will ban speech, this administration. I don't think they could be more clear, about that.
Especially, their actions show, I mean, our government was helping Brazil, try to get rid of X. And Elon Musk.
When he said, the other day, they won't stop, with me.
And they're not going to stop until they get me.
I believe that. 100 percent. You think more people are waking up to this?
ANTHONY: Everybody here is manning up in support for Trump. People are telling me, we're in New York. It's supposed to be guaranteed blue state. And people told me, because I said to them, I think everyone that is listening and hearing this, you have to get everyone to vote for Trump. It doesn't matter what state you are in. We need a show of strength for Trump. Because really, the best thing for the Democrat Party is a massive loss. Because if they lose by a hair, they are going to keep playing to these crazy ideas. They censor people. That's the path to victory.
They need massive laws. So they look inwards. And remember what it means, remember what it means, to really, at this point, a decent human.
I built my company on the basis of the golden rule. And treating people, in the way, I want to be treated.
Nobody wants duct tape being put on their mouth. Nobody wants their right to speech, taken away. Nobody wants that. And for one side of the country to want to do that to the other side is really wrong.
But the only way they will win is if there's a massive loss. And it doesn't matter if it's a red state or a blue state, you have to go vote Trump. People tell me, they will vote Trump.
They have been planning on doing that. Because they thought all is lost here. But who knows. Maybe New York votes for Trump this year.
GLENN: That would be crazy. Anthony, thank you so much.
Really appreciate it.
And good for you, for taking a stand, and not having fear.
Thank you so much.
ANTHONY: Can I say one last thing really quick? I'm doing everything I can, to try to fix this issue.
And one of the things I'm doing is called stickerP-A-C.com. It's a political action committee. We're giving away free uplifting Trump stickers.
So everybody go, right now, stickerP-A-C.com. And get your free Trump stickers. And give them out to friends, and tell people you like Trump in a nice, happy, fun way.
And let's fix the situation.
GLENN: I love that.
Stickers. Pac. P-A-C.
ANTHONY: Sticker. Sticker. PAC.
GLENN: Sticker Pac. Okay. I love it. (thank you so much.
Appreciate it. Anthony Constantino, from New York.
STU: StickerPAC.com.
And I will say, if I'm getting some stickers, you're doing some custom printing today, I think I will get a sticker mule. That's where I'm going.